I think theres room for it. We have both Mary Wiseman and Sonequa Martin-Green talking about body issues, Kate Mulgrew jumping in too, and some more behind-the-scenes photos. I actually had an entire epic story mapped out that I was seriously considering turning into a series of novels. Although there are speculations of Mary Wiseman's pregnancy, she is not. In fact, thats all the Discovery crew is qualified as in the 32nd century. As someone with severe and sometimes crippling anxiety whos managed to have a pretty successful high-pressure career, I question your assertion that she never would have graduated Starfleet., You clearly never served in a military environment. The Trek Collective has a flowchart for the Litverse which is helpful. )Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. Diplomacy? The Tilly we saw as Earth, check that United (eyeroll) Earth was being evacuated is NOT the same Tilly we saw for the previous 40+ episodes. By existing? I agree 100%. Editor's note, 23 Dec 2020: If you like Wiseman's interview here, then you should also check out interviewer Dawn Ennis's other work. Im a human being, you know? We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Just take a little trip down the hellhole that is a tabloids message boards and youll see the kind of body shaming of male and female actors and celebrities that exists out there. Im proud to be here and I am proud to wear my skin-tight costume and proud of my body. Too nervous and anxious. The doctor was usually the therapist. Im glad we are finally seeing it. I would not say it isnt a valid creative decision to try this approach, especially in an age where we are emphasizing the need for self-care, its just not to my taste. No spoilers in case I ever decide to actually the write the thing, but youd love it as a DS9 fan. I dont think youre ready for that kind of interaction, online, or anywhere else. Its sci-fi, brah. I thought her arc was going to end with her being booted from the service for repeatedly failing physical fitness tests? When a show blankets the airwaves with hugs and confessionals and cheering it tends to make any subtler moments stand out far less, but this is also not a subtle show to begin with. And thats a healthy outlook. New episodes of Star Trek: Discovery premiere on Thursdays on CBS All Access in the U.S. and on CTV Sci-Fi Channel in Canada, where it's also available to stream on Crave. The show will roll out on Paramount Plus in the US, and is expected to stream on Netflix elsewhere. I do not endorse body-shaming in any way, as I was bullied as a kid years ago. I hate the body shaming of actresses Theres recently was yet another fanboy arse-hat bloger who on their twitter account made an unkind comment about Mary/Tilly regarding her weight. Everybody loves Tilly. Except the writers of course. Do I want to be Sisko or Picard or Archer then most likely yes. And yeah the Full Circle stories do sound a bit depressing especially since SPOILER ALERT they kill off Janeway in them! Stupid decision to bring her back. She served aboard the USS Discovery while still a cadet in 2256, later commissioned as an ensign . Im glad you figured out what works for you, but Im not cool with a Star Trek board in 2021 focusing on an actors weight or appearance, especially when its a man commenting on a womans weight. How is she supposed to sound considering nobody knows what people in the 23rd century will talk like? And CBS posted some images of Emperor Georgious quarters on the ISS Discovery. Why did they do that? Harry wasnt annoying watching him was just sad :-D. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. Anyway it was just a thought. They seemed to only be limited by what that particular script called for that week. In fact now I think of it, Book aside everyone has an American accent. But the characters are pitch perfect. By the way, could of isnt English. Just blows my mind. Sort of the same way Spock stayed first officer in the movies to Kirk although he was a captain for five of those films. And to be honest, she never really helped him out all that much. Mary Wiseman is a good actress but even with that, if Star Trek Discovery was shot in 80s or 90s producers would probably force her to go on a diet or even fire her. The very basis of Star Trek is in direct conflict with people like that. The accent is too colloquial. Not sure what her weight has to do with anything. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. Is her awkwardness all that different from Ezri on DS9? Star Trek: Discovery streams exclusively on CBS All Access in the United States and is distributed concurrently by CBS Studios . Im sorry if the idea of someone not like Discovery upsets you, but its unreasonable to expect people to change their minds for that reason. I highly doubt the writers decided to just write her off for the hell of it (especially given how much everyone in the cast and crew love her). It would definitely be great if Rhys was promoted to first officer. I read somewhere that Gates McFadden and Marina Sirtis had somewhere in their contract a stipulation that they had to fit into their costumes. He was non-military, the same height as me, and easily weighed 300#. Its gotten very stale now. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. Patrick Kwok-Choon is the only one of the bridge officers that doesnt have another regular acting or producer/director role. Thats not good writing, its oandering fan fiction, Starfleet is not military. As for the debate about sending the message being overweight is good: the heart of the issue is that everybodys body is their own, not health and physical fitness. I think Mary is doing a fantastic job as isSonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. Or are you only a troll if you criticize something about Discovery? It inspired her to switch careers. I didnt like Reed from Enterprise, does that make me a troll? I LOVE the future! He was in the Travis Mayweather category. 108 comments so far. Loved that show, so did my wife. And honestlyKirk wouldnt last a week in a military environment. Key difference in thinking, and it makes all the difference in the big picture! Jerks. Jury still out on Books character.definitely ahead of the 2 dimensional bridge crew though. From what Ive read, having her on the bridge because of her betazed abilities was what Roddenberry had in mind. In a Paramount+ featurette (which you can see below) about the making of the episode, Wiseman talks about how Tilly has changed: Coming back for the finale was really exciting for me because she comes back in this fully black Starfleet suit. Typical. Good points. Proceed accordingly. And if people are critical of her because her appearance does not meet their expectations, they dont really have a clue of what Star Trek is all about. In every real-life Trekkie community Im a part of, as well as most online, shes loved. All are different. Fan favourite is a bit of a stretch..quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history Its so brutal. Tilly appears twice in the Star Trek: Discovery season 5 trailer. This time, even if I wanted that, my body said: no were going to take some time here, we need to heal. And so, I find myself in this bigger, fuller body and it made me appreciate where I was before. So when very capable people feel un-capable, crazy things happen. She hopped over those 900 years. Ive seen fan-fics with better characters than this. In large part that is down to getting set in my ways with this franchise, so I have to temper my critiques with that knowledge. Was that really a Betazoid characteristic or was she just reading faces and gestures? I dont see a repeated notion that DISCO saved Trek by heavily incorporating emotion into their characters. However, with the successive changes in show runners the coherence of Burnhams development has been lost. Mary Wiseman: That experience affects her so much this season. My condolences to you, for your mum. So. That is why you never saw councelors on any other class ship. He was competing in show jumping events with his horses until at least his 70s. What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? The show had its official opening on Monday, March 21st, and is currently set to run through April 24. And its funny that you bring up needing constant therapy as a bad thing when a ton of real life people see a therapist on a regular basis. Everybody loves ., meant literally, is never true. (80's for ya) Harry wasnt annoying. Theres a little Harley Quinn. :P (I know the whole thing of having a *ships* councilor is inherently different from what real therapists do on dry land, but yeah its super weird. I cant spoil anything into season five, except to say that we love Tilly. Im relieved to say I have no idea how that feels, and its something I cant even stomach thinking about, frankly. Find more stories on theStar Trek Universe. We have no information that Beyer consults in this show. I personally have battled weight issues all my life since high school and when I am eating healthy and trainng hard, I feel great and can do almost anything (power skating, fast hockey, tons of physical activity) meanwhile the opposite is true when I let myself go (and that does happen). My only issue with Captain Killy is that she died that wonderful red hair blonde. Shes a product of poor writing, constantly ditzy and trying to be the light relief to the point where its eye rolling. A person who we see strive to make themselves a better person. Which I think would be a tremendous mistake. The mirror Tilly and the ISS Discovery appear in the "Mirror of Discovery" storyline in Star Trek Online, as part of the game's 9th anniversary in January 2019; she is voiced by Mary Wiseman, who also . As an officer shes supposed to be leader. Star Trek: Discovery's Mary Wiseman and Blu del Barrio reflect on their character's journeys and the possibilities ahead. Anyway, another Discovery-ism, amongst the many other weird decisions on this show. Such use is more overt in DISCO, but it is by no means out of the ordinary. 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She opted that she had a different calling within the world of teaching and, in the end, she decided that she wanted to chase that feeling. Tillys great contribution is that shes NOT that sort of superwoman most people can never be. In season three Tilly was first officer and then acting captain; how does all of that affect who she is in season four? Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. Its a problem in even some least developed countries now. Events in David Macks two books towards the end of that series ( A Time to Kill and A Time to Heal) have a profound impact throughout the rest of the Litverse. Regarding fans, tons of them love Tilly. She only graduated from SA herself at the end of season 1. There are a lot of people in the comments hating, but in a franchise that includes Neelix, Wesley Crusher, Naomi Wildman, Kes, and Lwaxana Troi, Tilly is frankly nowhere near as annoying as those other characters. That is definitely not a true statement. Not everyone is going to agree with you in life but to accuse others of sullying the memories of people they didnt know existed until you replied to their posts may provoke far more negative responses. You had a variety of body shapes on discovery Tilly was thick. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. Im sure nearly everyone of the crew of TNG had issues and problems. But how the women look?! Mary Wiseman. After Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) and Tilly (Mary Wiseman) journey to a planet alongside Burnham's mother Gabrielle (Sonja Sohn), things get a little hairy when the Qowat Milat nun they're . During the 1st season, Michael helped Tilly to gain confidence and then continued to nurture that confidence through . Too nervous and anxious. However, if we got to see Tilly gradually improve herself. Her empathic abilities work via viewscreens? And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, From future Starfleets POV, thats 900 years! It was so fun. I see them as similar. Let's get into the details of the actress's weight gain, which has also been linked to her pregnancy. I suppose thats why some places are rising and others are very visibly in decline. Gee, so some Trek fans can be @$$holes. Jake is about 45-50 and one of the two lead characters. Andrew: Great, perceptive, thoughtful post! I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. She is full of self doubt, guilt, and anxiety, yet she doesnt quit. Like maybe he would be way too codependent or something? I really liked her in the first season. It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. The Relaunch Litverse books for DS9 are uneven in my reading experience as compared to the TNG and the Voyager books once Beyer took over. Saying that its the job of actors to tell people whats healthy and whats not is the problem, not a solution. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. If they wont act a woman should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). Mary Wiseman: Well what is like the same root of Book but like the polar opposite expression of it? Because Book is someone who doesnt just have cerebral, intellectual intelligence. Two Kelpians and a Disco Kenny (Zero Kelpians were harmed during this shoot. Her character Tilly is not my favorite on the show but body shaming is a shameful act by itself. The Klingon redesign was much more than a visual reboot and especially the tech aspects dont fit canon (holographic communication, Klingon cloaking, android bridge crew, easy terraforming, state-of-the-art nanotech, Enterprise battle squad). Body shaming is wrong and immature. No one of my Trekkie friends, growing up with TNG watch this anymore. I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. What do you think it looks like? Something happened to Tilly (Wiseman) and Bryce (Rowe). Biography Background information. Obligatory mention of the stupid turbolifts and how dumb they are. You mean that I can find myself a BBW in the 32nd Century? Star Trek: Discoverystreams exclusively onParamount+in the U.S. Its very possible Mary Wiseman wanted off the show, or needed a bit of a break. The U.S.S. The laughing, alone, is far more damaging and shameful and disgusting and disrespectful than obesity itself. No character like her would ever have graduated Starfleet. None of us are and its okay. Its all pretty subjective. But my initial annoyed response to DISCO in particular, well, Ive let go of that in the past two years, as life is too short to get all worked-up angry over personal quibbles with a tv show. Tilly got fat, that is inexcusable. In her interview with TrekMovie last week, Discovery co-showrunner Michelle Paradise echoed these sentiments: Well never be done with Tilly. But Barclay is just irritating as hell. Except that would imply that her being there was the exception rather than the rule. No character like her would ever have graduated Starfleet. But then again Im not a troll. Thats the thought I had last season, when they had the perfect chance to wirte out Burnam (I believe it was Reunification III or the one after that) and they just didnt follow through at the end. However, in the same interview she also talked about how some fans have not been so supportive in season three: I noticed theres definitely been an uptick in body-shaming towards me and Tilly this season, which was harrowing because Im a person, I have a history and bullying is totally a part of that. 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However, we do know that David Mack does. I think that she is one of the go-to people when there is hard science stuff to crack. Thats just a matter of preference. Its her, Adira, Stamets, and Reno who are the really hard science people. Theyre losers, pure and simple. Book is Han Solo. Only showing up for briefings when that specialty was needed for that particular situation. I wonder what the advertisers behind this site think of posts like this. Its shall we say very variable. ..I have a total girl crush. I KNOW, people say they are great, I was too focused on Star Trek when those were airing, but I might try and give the original show a shot one day. With predictive spelling and multiple languages available, incorrect word choice is a constant threat even when one does type in the correct word. Bad, character pandering types of writing, with over-emotional children in the roles of astronaut-scientist-soldiers. She wears 36D bra size and weighs 147 pounds. I agree, in fairness Barclay was relatable in many ways, socially awkward but not too overplayed. And for your own gain, right? In CanadaDiscoveryis broadcast on CTV Sci-Fi Channel and streams on Crave. Im sure many may NOT be a Janeway but could at least look at her and say thats what I aspire to be. WTF this is why Ive been following Star Trek since the original in 1967 when I saw Nichelle Nichols. The actress also discussed how Killy inspires some fans: Killy is somebody whos very important to a lot of fans, especially my curvy women out there who like to see another full-figured, fat, curvy, chunky woman get to feel powerful and use that size to command authority, said Wiseman. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. Star Trek: Discovery threw a shocker into its latest episode as Lieutenant Sylvia Tilly decided to leave the Discovery crew. Episodes will be. I hope were able to explore it because theres potential for great levity, but then also really important conversations to be had because when you care about someone you dont want to see them go through pain, and I can see completely how Tilly will be very protective of Michael Burnham. You know, like a psychotic murderer? They should all try for the standards of randos on the internet like you And Tilly is the Trekkie. The Berman era had specific ideas about things like accents and music that kind of locked it into something fairly homogeneous. | March 22, 2022 | Perhaps they had a second or third language that they use regularly. Of all the issues I have with Star Trek Discovery, Mary Wiseman/Tilly is definitely not among them. She is super meta. Basically a good officer whos been in Starfleet for some years but her career stalled due to emotional and self-esteem issues. Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. Right? Took time to reset the franchise. Shes a little overweighed, so what? Mention one thing or person loved by EVERYBODY. Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. However, the problem with Tilly (and this really is more of a Star Trek Discovery problem because it exists with every character they do this to) is that she never made strides or attempts to improve. He was a cool character and one of the best things about season 3. Not liking a character doesnt make a person a troll, so Im not even sure what that nonsensical comment was supposed to mean. In the latest Star Trek: Discovery episode, Sylvia Tilly ( Mary Wiseman) was tasked with . Well, Renos really more engineering. Im not the idiot fringe but her weight is none of our business (and, also, she had a baby before S3, I believe). You misunderstood. Mary Wiseman has established herself as a talented actor on Star Trek: Discovery. Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. (laughs). Tilly (Mary Wiseman) leads the stranded Starfleet cadets to safety. I know Gene Rodenberry never wanted Starfleet to be portrayed as a military outfit, but this has gone so far in the opposite direction that its being run like a pre-school participation awards ceremony. That promise was. Oh, I think its fine they had a counselor on the SHIP; I just think its weird they had her on the BRIDGE. So I think Tilly definitely goes to employ those skills. There are characters you really cherish and others that are fun but ultimately nothing special. She gets up in the morning and lives with a purpose, helping her crewmates, and ready to make the ultimate sacrifice if necessary. I also know hes basically your favorite Trek author. American actress Mary Wiseman was born on July 30, 1985. Somehow these insecure people feel others not like them are a threat to how they see themselves and how the world should, in their opinion, be. The only thing she is qualified for at Starfleet Academy is as a 23rd century specialist. She isnt back on Discovery. These are not well-written or well-acted characters, and they weaken the series every time they show up. Why is that a command level position? What do you mean? Weight Gain Explained Rumors are going on that Mary Wiseman is pregnant and she has gained weight. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I could watch Tilly all day! Not holding my breath hes given the job though, especially since we know Saru is coming back. I would encourage her to do the same. Great interview, Dawn. Weve seen Captain Killy, so what does Mirror Universe Book look like? Paramount+'s Star Trek: Discovery is the flagship of the modern-day Star Trek television franchise, premiering in 2017 and about to launch its fourth season on November 18. Those b@stards, however, totally killed Landry )Cuddles with @actordougjones and @davbentom These men are nothing short of hereoic in prosthetics all day e'reday. GD, what shoes is David wearing in those pics? I have considered it and rejected it. Theres a difference between celebrating obesity and accepting individual human beings, treating them as human beings, and not targeting them specifically for emotional harassment. Rather than shaming them or acting like there are only a few kinds of women worth aspiring to be. If Tilly needed to pick up a phaser or be physically active then that means the Discovery is in some serious shit, with it either having been boarded and their entire security personnel neutralised, or with Tilly separated from the ship, most like due to its destruction. Funny enough, I have never had a problem with Wesley. The problem is, very deep into his 80s, and theres still chatter about him playing the action hero. My personal opinion is, if you see ribs in their low decolletage, they are probably not so healthy. Now if it turns out, Burnham was being influenced by an alien entity or she has been given insight into the future which made it imperative that she rush Tilly into becoming the Number One, then I can accept it.